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Happy Birthday Great Lakes Church (Part 3)

Since GLC turns one year old this Sunday, I've decided to blog more than usual this week and write about the challenges we've had in creating a church for people who don't go to church.   Nope, this stuff isn't meant to be negative.

Challenge #2: Staying Focused

Everybody (including those who don't go to church) has an idea of what a church should look like and do.  Great Lakes is not exempt from people walking in w/ ideas and expectations:

*Some think the music should be quieter.  Others like that we're targeting 20 & 30 year old males who don't go to church.
*Some think we should focus more on world missions.  Others like that we focus on church planting and our community.
*Some think we should have extended times of musical worship.  Others like that we're sensitive to first time guests and don't prolong the singing.
*Some think we should buy a building ASAP.  Others like that we haven't tied up all our resources in a building.
*Some think we should do more creative arts (ie - mimes).  Others like that we haven't created that kind of awkward tension.
*Some think we should add mid-week programs.  Others like that we keep it simple.
*Some think we should teach every week verse-by-verse through the Bible.  Others like that we've adopted the teaching style of Jesus w/ storytelling and reflection on how the Scriptures apply to our life today.
*Some think we should add more ministries.  Others like that all of our ministries happen through Growth Groups.

It's impossible to make everyone happy, so we've decided to do what we believe God wants Great Lakes Church to do.   That's it.  Nothing more.  I'm so grateful for a church that embraces the fact we can't & won't do everything.

Today I want to thank the 12 people who moved across the country and started their lives over to start a church for people who don't go to church.  God has honored the risk you took and the sacrifices you made.  I love you all.

Happy Birthday Great Lakes Church (Part 2)

Since GLC turns one year old this Sunday, I've decided to blog more than usual this week and write about the challenges we've had in creating a church for people who don't go to church.   Nope, this stuff isn't meant to be negative.

Challenge #1: Church People

It takes a mature person to say, "I'm willing to give up my preferences for the sake of the mission."   On day one, we had a handful of "church people" (those who've attended church for most of their life and call themselves Christians) who we're willing to say this.  Today, we have hundreds.  Motivating "church people" is one of the hardest things in the world.  Every week I see a handful of people who just don't get it.  They still think the church exists for their viewing pleasure.  The great news is that this is such a small group of people that their attitude isn't affecting the rest of the church!

Today I want to thank those of you who've sacrificed your preferences by doing some or all of the following:

*Volunteering on a ministry team
*Sitting in the video venue on a regular basis, to make more seats available in our "live" auditorium for guests
*Stretching yourself in the area of giving and generosity
*Started attending the 9 am service, so that we could make more room at 10:30 am... when more people attend
*Opened your home for a Growth Group to meet in
*Continually giving up your music style preferences or other likes you have by attending GLC, because you want to be a part of a church whose mission is simply to help people find and follow Jesus Christ.

I realize that it would be much easier for "church people" to join a church where they aren't asked or expected to do anything.  That kind of culture creates mean, selfish, cynical, judgmental, self-righteous, and entitled people.   The irony of serving is that it always brings more fulfillment and happiness to the one serving than the one being served.

"For even the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve others..."  Matthew 20:28

Happy Birthday Great Lakes Church (Part 1)

We launched Great Lakes Church on the second Sunday of February 2009.  From the start, we made it clear that our mission was to create a church for people who don't go to church.  If you think about it, this is problematic.  It's like creating a coffee shop for people who don't like coffee.  The big difference is this: The church doesn't exist for people with a common interest, it exists for people with a common problem.

What's the problem?  People don't know where they stand w/ God... or if there is a God... or if He's a God worth pursuing?!  From the day we opened our doors (one year ago) until now, we've stayed focused on creating a place where it's ok to ask questions, or have doubts, or become a Christ Follower w/o changing your personality. 

We've tried to help people understand that their spiritual depth shouldn't be measured by the length of a Sunday morning gathering, or by how moved they are emotionally during a service, or by how many verses they memorized in a week.  It should be measured by how quick we are to obey what we know God wants us to do.  As for where we actually stand w/ God, that should be measured by one thing: God's grace.

The response has been nothing short of amazing.  This past Sunday, we welcomed over 1,000 people through our doors and started using a 3rd adult auditorium.  Am I excited? Of course!  But I'm also overwhelmed.  We've done multiple random polls and have learned that roughly 50% of the people who attend Great Lakes have zero church experience or haven't been to church in 5 years or longer.  This week I'll be blogging more than usual 'cause I want to confront the challenges this has created and thank all of you who've made GLC possible.

Today I want to thank those of you who gathered in my parents living room, in the fall of 2008, to listen to a far-fetched dream and join us on the selfless mission of creating a church for people who don't go to church.  Most people who attend GLC will never know your name, but you can be assured that someday you will be welcomed into eternity by thousands of people who experienced God's grace because of you!

Dave

PS - Here are some pics from one of our fall 2008 launch team meetings:











Resources for "I Want a New Marriage"

For those of you who want to spend time working on your marriage, other than just Sunday mornings, here are some great resources I'd recommend:

1) Five Love Languages, by Gary Chapman (sorry to the dudes 'cause the book color is purple)

2) His Needs, Her Needs, by Willard Harley

3) Saving Your Marriage Before it Starts, by Les and Leslie Parrott

4) Sacred Marriage, by Gary Thomas

5) The 7 Principles for Making Marriage Work, by John Gottman (Probably my favorite and the most helpful of all these books)

6) Love Map Game (Okay, now you're going to think I'm cheesy.  However, this is a great place to start if you're at a dead end in having conversations w/ the person you're married to.

7) This past fall, I co-led a guys growth group called, "I Want to be a Better Husband".  Here are some free pdf files of the homework we had in the group.  These ideas should be a catalyst for how to treat your wife or husband!

Week 1          Week 2          Week 3            Week 4

8) Need counseling?  Here are two local centers we recommend: Love Light Christian Counseling & Wellspring Counseling Center

Ted & Gayle Haggard at Great Lakes Church

On February 21st, we're going to be doing a live interview w/ Ted & Gayle Haggard, former pastors of the 14,000 member New Life Church in Colorado Springs.  Recently, they've been on Oprah, The View, Larry King Live, etc. sharing the story of how their marriage survived Ted's very publicized affair w/ a male prostitute.

So why are we doing this?

1) To communicate that NOBODY is beyond God's grace and forgiveness!

2) To give hope to couples who feel their marriage is beyond repair!

3) To proactively communicate that you don't have to hide from your sins or live in ongoing shame.  Christianity, at it's core, is a message of grace, hope, healing and forgiveness.

4) To help those who've been affected by an affair learn that it is possible for healing to take place.

5) To help the church learn that we've got the power to restore someone who fails or condemn them to a life of shame.

In closing, here is a brief video of the Haggards on Larry King Live (click here)

Marriage Stuff

1) We launched Great Lakes Church on the 2nd Sunday of February 2009.   We're getting close to our one year anniversary!!!


2) Our "I Want a New Marriage" series has been a lot of fun.  This past Sunday we talked about how almost every argument and fight is rooted in this very simple truth: We're mad 'cause we're not getting our own way! (James 4:1-3)


Here are some tips to make sure that you don't kill each other during a fight:

a. The way you treat each other when you're NOT fighting is the most important factor for determining the length, intensity and outcome of your actual fights.

b. It's always best to discuss things ASAP! (Ephesians 4:26-27)

c. Start the fight off right! (The words, tone of voice and accusations we make in the first 3 minutes of the fight will determine the outcome almost every time)

d. Fight about the actual issue.  (Don't bring up the past or go off on random tangents)

e. Focus on the situation or behavior, not the person!  (There is a huge difference between a criticism and a complaint)



3) If you want to continue to focus on your marriage after this series is done, you really need to join a Growth Group that focuses on marriage.  I highly suggest the "Love and Respect" (Tues 02) or "Marriage Makeover" (Mon 02) Growth Groups .  You can access our Growth Groups sign up page by clicking here.
 

4) Within the next week, I'll be blogging about why we've chosen to have a "live" interview w/ Ted & Gayle Haggard (Feb 21st) and what we hope to accomplish.  I just finished reading Gayle's book, "Why I Stayed" and it is probably the best book I've read on the importance of establishing a culture of grace, hope, healing and forgiveness.

Upcoming Changes at Great Lakes Church

Here are 3 big changes that have happened or are happening very soon:

1) We opened another "video venue" this weekend!  At this time, we're using it as a "Parents Viewing Auditorium" for those who choose to keep their children (8 years and under) with them in the adult service.  I heard great feedback from yesterday and really appreciate parents helping us keep our other two auditoriums free of the distractions that often come w/ kids in the room.

2) By Easter, we will have a full band in the 1st "video venue" auditorium.  It will still be the "not as loud" option, but it will no longer just be an acoustic guitar.  By the way, if you play the bass or guitar and would like to try out for the band, please email Tony Peterson at tony@greatlakeschurch.com  (As I mentioned yesterday, if you play the oboe, clarinet, trombone or flute... we're proud of you, but there is no need to tryout for the band).

3) We will be hiring a full-time kids director before Easter!  We are super excited about this.  Currently, we have over 200 kids who show up on the weekends.

Ok, if you're confused about the different auditoriums, here is a summary: Auditorium 1 (Live venue w/ full band); Auditorium 2 (Video venue teaching w/ a full live band by Easter); Auditorium 3 (Parents Viewing Auditorium for those who keep their children with them.  This is all on video).

By the way, yesterday I had about 15 people ask me if the story about my response email to a member of our community who has sent me multiple discouraging emails was true.  The answer is "yes".  I assure you that I never make up stories.

Dave


PS - Here is a picture of "The Spite House" w/ the background cut out.  What an amazing story!

 

Exciting Changes Happening at Great Lakes Church

1) Life never slows down!!! 

2) This Sunday, I'll be taking 5 minutes at each of our gatherings (9 and 10:30 am) to share with you the next steps for Great Lakes Church (and no, it's not buying a building), but some pretty exciting stuff is right around the corner.

3) If you haven't signed up for a Growth Group yet, better do it soon!  They're filling up fast. (I'm not exaggerating)

4) On Sunday, we'll be talking about how to have conflict w/o killing the person you're married to.  This could have saved OJ Simpson a lot of headaches (sorry, that was a bad attempt at humor).

5) On another note, here are just a few comments we received back from guests this past Sunday.  Pretty motivating stuff!

"This was the first time I had been to a service in a theater, but it surprisingly wasn't that scary."

"Everyone was so friendly, from the person waving to us as we drove in, to the woman who brought an umbrella to us so we got a little out of the rain, and on and on.  So kind!"


"Put it this way, I'm actually looking forward to attending this Sunday!!!"

"Great programs for kids!  It allowed my husband and I to enjoy the service.  Thank you."

 
"My impression was a great one.  It was what I was looking for, but I didn't know it until I was there."

"My husband said right away that he would come back again!"

Sunday Recap & Marriage Myths!

"WOW"!  That pretty much sums up this past Sunday.  Thanks to all of you who volunteer.  We were able to welcome over 100 first time guests and even had to open up a 3rd theater as an overflow room!!!

Here is a recap of our "Marriage Myths" talk:

Myth #1: Marriage CHANGES people.
Truth: Marriage REVEALS WHAT'S ALREADY IN PEOPLE!


This is because marriage is the first time in our life that we experience real stress, pressure or responsibility.  We find things in ourselves that we don't like and think marriage changed us.  No it didn't.  It just revealed what was in us all along.


Myth #2: The grass is greener ON THE OTHER SIDE.
Truth: The grass is greener WHERE YOU WATER IT!

What are you doing to water your marriage?  What kind of time and attention are you giving it?  Are you going on dates?  Do you occasionally read a book on marriage?  Are you connecting w/ your spouse regularly?


Myth #3: LOVE is a lot of work.
Truth: STAYING IN LOVE is a lot of work.

Love is easy.  That's why so many people fall in love.  Staying in love is a challenge.  Jesus addressed this challenge by helping us understand that love is supposed to be demonstrated through action (John 13:34).  Love is not a noun.  It's a verb.  How are you actively showing love in your marriage?

Random Thoughts

1) Congrats to Tony & Michelle Peterson on the birth of their baby girl... Claire Elaine Peterson!

2) I can't wait for Sunday.  I really believe that we'll see lots of healing in marriages throughout this series.

3) We're very aware of how crowded our auditoriums are getting at the 10:30 am gathering.  I promise that our leadership team has met multiple times about this and is currently working on a solution.

4) Here is the first "heads up" about a new change that is going to be implemented in a few weeks.  Starting the first Sunday of March, we will no longer be allowing kids under 6 years old in our adult auditorium (this may change to kids 5th grade and under).  The reason for this "blanket rule" is pretty simple... the more Great Lakes Church has grown, the more distractions we've had by kids.  After spending countless hours preparing a talk, setting up for our service, getting the music team in sync, etc... we want to make sure we present the best experience possible for adults AND kids.  That being said, if you don't currently leave your children in one of our kid's programs I'm asking that you begin doing so right away.  This is a HUGE help and will actually make more seats available in the adult auditoriums.

5) Please take at least 5 minutes today and join me in praying for Great Lakes Church... that we would continue to stay laser focused on making it easy for people to find and follow Jesus Christ!  The longer a church exists, the easier it is to be come distracted from this mission.  May God help us always remember that Great Lakes Church does not exist for "church people"!!!!  We are a church that exists for the 70% of people in our area who do not go to church.

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